Friday, July 31, 2009

Help, robins eggs???

Can someone please advise, We had a pair of robins nesting in the ivy the eggs have been in their for a few days (6 eggs) My cat has just killed the female, we have removed the nest as the male will not be able to hatch them by himself. We have put the nest in a small box surrounded by polystyrene beads with a small soft toy on top and put it in the airing cupboard. Can anyone else advise us how to give them a chance to hatch? We had to do this a couple of years ago when we pulled down the ivy without knowing there was a nest in it and managed to get them to the embryonic stage using a houshold lamp, but we had a cold night and the temperature of the eggs dropped by a few degrees and they died. we haven't got the lamp anymore and have forgotten what temp they have to be at. We feel so dreadful for the poor things, I am glaring at my cat right now!!!
Please help, if you can.
Answers:
Hiya.

If you live in the UK then call the RSCA for more information. They will be able to send someone out to help or tell you what to do:

http://www.rspca.org.uk/

The main people who can help are the birds society RSPB. I would definately contact them as they will know best. Also, there website has information on it about these situations. You can email them for help if you are outside the UK:

http://www.rspb.org.uk/

Certainly do not listen to the people saying get rid of them. I advise you try first, and if it comes to the worst when you cant do anything you may have to sadly dispose of them. But remember there are places like Pets at Home in the UK (you might not realise but the animal staff are highly qaulified people so know what they are on about) and they will assist you very well. Vets etc are also on hand. But I would definately recommend the RSPB. Cats will do that so dont worry about it the slightest but the chances of you succesfully doing this on your own are highly unlikely. Good Look! john
robin eggs taste fantastic
Ring the RSBP or animal shelter for advice... Flipping cats eh? I've just been putting my washing away and have discovered a mouse head and a couple of foot away I found half of it's body! nice...
Considering your situation and the situation of the eggs, do you really think you can 'raise' baby robins? Your cat will get them too eventually, so if I were you I'd just give the cat the eggs. They're only eggs, right? You wait until they're baby birds and helpless, much worse can happen. My thoughts.
Call your local zoo. Maybe they can take them.

And put a collar on your cat that has a small bell attached. It's a great warning system for the birds!
sorry thats "nature" , (i would rather have the birds than a cat though)
This is unavoidable, cats are predators and nothing will change that. Who will feed the babies if they do hatch?? You?
Do you fancy chewing on worms and then spitting them down the chicks throat. No , thought not.
The best thing to do is get rid of it all. I know this is harsh of me to say, but there really is nothing else for it.
Robins are migratory birds in the U.S. Don't know if you live there but...

Q: I found and injured bird. Who do I call or Where can I take it?

A:The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service does not have rehabilitators here on staff. Call your local veterinarian, humane society, or county or municipal wildlife agency to find the nearest qualified wildlife rehabilitator that can take and treat the bird. Or you could call the Regional FWS Migratory Bird Permit Office to locate a federally permitted migratory bird rehabilitator. You may also access the International Wildlife Rehabilitation Council (IWRC) Hotline site or the National Wildlife Rehabilitators Association (NWRA) site to help put you in touch with a qualified rehabilitator. While you are locating a suitable rehabilitator, keep the bird in a dark box in a warm, quiet spot. Do not disturb it or offer it food. Let it rest.

Q:Can I keep the bird and nurse it myself?


A:No. It is against the law to keep a bird, injured, orphaned, or otherwise, without the proper permits. In most cases, injured birds required specialized professional attention to survive and to be successfully reestablished in the wild. Maintaining migratory birds as pets is prohibited.

It breaks international and federal laws, and maybe your state's laws by keeping the birds eggs and trying to hatch them yourself without a permit:
http://www.fws.gov/laws/laws_digest/migt...

The best thing to do would be to contact a rehabilitator and hand over the eggs. But I'd say the chances of the eggs hatching are slim anyways.
Chances are they have cooled to much by now, they need to be a constant 100-102 degrease Fahrenheit.They also need the correct amount of humidity, without the right humidity they will not hatch. If you let them cool at all while moving the nest they have expired already (it only takes 15-20 min without heat to cool) Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. It isn't a good idea to hatch them without contacting a wildlife rehabber. Robins are protected and without the proper care (after they hatch) they will not survive.
You can hatch then ans you can feed them yourself...you do not have to chew up worms.they sell formula at the pet store. If I was you i would go to the pet store and ask them they should be able to help you more then the people on here. GOOD LUCK.
A heating pad kept on low on top of the nest will keep them warm enough to hatch. Try taking them to a local rescue so they can be properly feed once they hatch. Also this is the reason cats do not need to be outside. The killing of an innocent momma robin, and maybe the two eggs she was tending to. So sad. Keep the cat indoors.
unfortunately.. its probably too late..
you really need an incubator.. the eggs have to stay warm constantly or they will become unfertile.
I would put them back and maybe . the male can find a new female to help him...

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